CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa --- A group of Roman Catholic nuns have left Des Moines on a two-week bus tour of nine states to protest Republican federal budget proposals that the group believes hurt the poor and vulnerable.

The primary target of the so-called “nuns on the bus” is Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, the author of the “Ryan budget,” which has been approved by the Republican-controlled U.S. House.

It’s not just his budget plan, which Sister Simone Campbell, executive editor of Network, a liberal social justice lobby in Washington said would decimate the social safety net by cutting federal spending by $5 trillion over 10 years while adding $4 trilli9on in tax cuts.

“The part that really got us going was Ryan saying his Catholic faith informed his budget,” Campbell told The Gazette Editorial Board. “My astute political analysis was ‘liar, liar pants on fire.’”

So the Catholic sisters have launched a nine-state bus tour from Des Moines to highlight their work and bring attention to Ryan’s “immoral” budget priorities. They’ll take their message to Dubuque Tuesday, stopping at Dubuque Food Pantry, 1598 Jackson St., at 9:30 a.m.

Her understanding of Catholic moral teaching is far different that Ryan’s, Campbell said. “He wants us to think it’s only about the individual and promoting the individual.”

The Catholic church does teach individual responsibility, “but always in the context of community,” she said.

“You can only have individual responsibility if you know how we are in community together,” Campbell said. “That means I’m as aware of your needs as you are of mine.”

Ryan has not responded directly to the nuns’ bus tour, but has defended his budget as an attempt to strengthen a safety net “stretched to the breaking point in recent years, failing the very citizens who need help the most.”

His budget, Ryan wrote in an opinion piece, “ends welfare for those who don't need it, but strengthens welfare programs for those who do.”

It’s not just the budget cuts that worry the nuns.

“To be responsible, we need to raise revenue,” Campbell said. She wants Congress to let the Bush tax cuts to expire and then re-institute the most effective, such as the Earned Income Tax Credit that benefits the working poor.

Wealth disparity also must be addressed, the nuns said. It contributes to individualism.

“When you get stuff you get protective and you lose perspective about how we're in this together,” she said.

Rather than simply cutting budget and taxes, Campbell said the nation must invest in the future like the previous generations invested in public infrastructure and public programs.

The nuns hope their tour will start a conversation that will get people of differing viewpoints talking.

“Can we find a bridge?” Campbell said. “I don’t know how to build a bridge, but I would start with a few little pillars that we agree on and work our way to the middle.”

To follow the “nuns on the bus” tour, visit www.nunsonthebus.org or #NunsOnTheBus.

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slipstream
slipstream

The nuns should be protesting outside the Vatican embassy and at the local bishops' homes against the aiding and abetting of serial child sex abuse by Roman Catholic clergy. Crimes which have gone on for decades.

whtnationalist
whtnationalist

These nuns are openly targeting Republicans, not all politicians. Clearly political activity, not social activity. I thought non-profits were supposed to steer clear of politics. How does it feel to have your contributions and even tax dollars going to political activity? On top of it all they are campaigning against cuts to their organizations.. more than a little self interest.

whtnationalist
whtnationalist

Have they registered as a PAC? Just what is their tax free status. As employees of the Catholic Church this makes the Catholic Church a PAC. A quick look at definition of 527 groups shows that their activity does NOT qualify under 527. Because they are targeting a specific party, not an issue. So their activity is regulated under federal law. As representatives of the Catholic Church it throws into question the status of that religious organization.

To quote: "the term is usually applied only to such organizations that are not regulated under state or federal campaign finance laws because they do not "expressly advocate" for the election or defeat of a candidate or party."

slipstream
slipstream

I agree, the IRS needs to look into the so-called religious "orders" that these leftist nuns belong to, and revoke the tax exempt status of the orders or the archdiocese or both. Another question is whether nuns file and pay income taxes?

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

These crazy nuns should be protesting themselves for not protecting the innocent babies they vote to murder. Wonder what God thinks of his religous followers advocating baby killing!

old_tyme_hockey04
old_tyme_hockey04

Wow, the amount of ridiculous accusations being posted is making my head spin. So if I'm getting this correct... supporting the poor and downtrodden = supporting abortion. Glad people in here could clear that up for me.

"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favour"

Kernel
Kernel

I am an atheist, and I love these nuns.

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

[quote]old_tyme_hockey04 said: "Wow, the amount of ridiculous accusations being posted is making my head spin. So if I'm getting this correct... supporting the poor and downtrodden = supporting abortion. Glad people in here could clear that up for me.<BR..........................Supporting DEMOCRATS is killing babies. You must be one of those baby killing christians, God frowns.

YouGoGirls
YouGoGirls

What a great group of ladies! You are in my prayers.

Wally
Wally

Love the sign Put People 1st Not babies, people.

IowanAtheist
IowanAtheist

As I mentioned in another article, it's hard to take these women's concern seriously when they are still willing to be part of an organization that systematically protects pedophiles from justice in the name of 'protecting the organization' -- even the current pope is guilty of this crime against humanity.

Carnac
Carnac

So she thinks Ryan's plan "would decimate the social safety net". Sister, there is nothing that will "decimate the social safety net" more than the current structure of the social safety net.

She says “To be responsible, we need to raise revenue”. Anyone that has looked at the math KNOWS that revenue can't possibly be raised enough to cover that which has been promised. To obtain votes, previous Legislature's have over-promised that which is not possible. Period.

Here are a couple of current factoids:
1.) the U.S. government budget deficit dramatically widened in May, as spending jumped 31.3 percent from the same month a year ago, and
2.) receipts in May totaled $180.7 billion, the second-largest tax take for the month of May ever.

Sister, revenue is NOT the problem.

And she wants Congress to let the "Bush tax cuts" expire. Perhaps she should be reminded that the Bush tax cuts DID expire as scheduled. It was Pres. Obama than continued the tax cuts, thus they are now the "Obama tax cuts" just to be perfectly accurate.

reojoe
reojoe

Nothing that stings regressive "Christians" more than learning that their breed of "Christianity" doesn't jibe with real Christianity and the words of Jesus.

The comments on this thread prove it once again.

God bless the Sistas!

DaddyTJ
DaddyTJ

While most of this post is nonsense and I disagree with what they are doing, they are not violating any tax exempt laws because they are not protesting as a specific group. If, for example, their religious order, which is not specified, took a stand and protested a politician in this manner, then yes, it MAY violate their tax exemption, but these are just a few nuns who happen to vote democrat who disagree with the proposed budget a republican came up with. They are not protesting as part of the Catholic church, they just happen to be Catholic nuns.

Likewise, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to protest regardless of tax exemption, you just can't funnel money into a political party through your non-profit, but it doesn't stop the members of that non-profit from giving money away to a political party outside of the organization.

takeastand
takeastand

Dear Courier,I believe that Mr reoWeener profile picture should not be allowed. There is no proof that our president is a smoker!! That picture is just down right disrepctful.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]takeastand said: "Dear Courier,I believe that Mr reoWeener profile picture should not be allowed. There is no proof that our president is a smoker!! That picture is just down right disrepctful. "[/quote]

I'm as big of a supporter of our Commander in Chief of the U.S. military that you'll find, but you may be A BIT behind in the news if you haven't caught that our Commander in Chief of the U.S. military is a smoker (or at least WAS a smoker).

BirthCertificate
BirthCertificate

Paul Ryan is one of the few politicians in office today who understand that the U.S. cannot continue down this road of excessive spending, lest we end up like Greece. Then we'd have to make hard decisions. Better to get it under control now, and as Carnac said, Revenue is not the problem. Of course, the nuns probably don't have a grasp on basic economic fundamentals, having spent most of their years in a socialistic, commune type society that is dependent upon a bigger institution for their livelihood. Of course, they could also be protesting the wars, drone kills, security leaks, Gitmo, Fast & Furious, excessive golfing and travel (did I miss anything?). They could also take a stand against the Catholic Churches own problems as Slipstream noted, but that's not as much fun as helping foment class warfare.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]BirthCertificate said: "Paul Ryan is one of the few politicians in office today who understand that the U.S. cannot continue down this road of excessive spending, lest we end up like Greece. Then we'd have to make hard decisions. Better to get it under control now, and as Carnac said, Revenue is not the problem. Of course, the nuns probably don't have a grasp on basic economic fundamentals, having spent most of their years in a socialistic, commune type society that is dependent upon a bigger institution for their livelihood. Of course, they could also be protesting the wars, drone kills, security leaks, Gitmo, Fast & Furious, excessive golfing and travel (did I miss anything?). They could also take a stand against the Catholic Churches own problems as Slipstream noted, but that's not as much fun as helping foment class warfare."[/quote]

WOW!!! I heard all of that today, word for word, on AM radio.

What a coincidence!

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

[quote]reojoe said: "WOW!!! I heard all of that today, word for word, on AM radio.What a coincidence!"[/quote]

Good to hear that your finally listening to something worthwhile and hopefully you can be more open-minded and learn the truth. Continue to listen to America's cliff notes.

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

[quote]reojoe said: "Nothing that stings regressive "Christians" more than learning that their breed of "Christianity" doesn't jibe with real Christianity and the words of Jesus.The comments on this thread prove it once again.God bless the Sistas! "[/quote]

THOU SHALL NOT KILL.........Sistas/reojoe!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: "THOU SHALL NOT KILL.........Sistas/reojoe!"[/quote]

You aren't so ignant to think that Catholic nuns would be in favor of abortion, are you, Rush?

I've known a few of them in my day, but have never known a pro-choice catholic nun.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: "THOU SHALL NOT KILL.........Sistas/reojoe!"[/quote]

And, if you refer to myself, there IS a Christian argument out there that says that man did not truly beome man until God breathed the breath of life into man. He THEN became truly human.

Many of the clergy take this view, which is in line with scripture. However, I've not met a Catholic who takes this view.

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

[quote]reojoe said: "You aren't so ignant to think that Catholic nuns would be in favor of abortion, are you, Rush?I've known a few of them in my day, but have never known a pro-choice catholic nun.WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU aren't so IGNORANT to think that voting for the Demo's is saving innocent babies, are you, Weener?

Anyone who votes for the Demo's is killing babies, plain and simple, you can't hide from the genocide. Democrats are pushing babies over the cliff for years with their progressive anti-life position. Catholics that vote demo are cutting the throats of millions of God's babies! Weener!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: ""[/quote]

Then why haven't regressives, or our regressive dominated supreme court not made efforts to ban abortion? I find that curious.

Weener? Was that a subtle proposition? You one of those regressives who speaks out against gay rights, but has a bit of an "inkling" deep down?

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

reojoe wrote: Then why haven't regressives, or our regressive dominated supreme court not made efforts to ban abortion? I find that curious............

You then are suggesting that there has not been an effort to stop the killing and ban the murder of innocent children. You are crazy from drinking the koolaid of those progressing us forward off a cliff!

As you know there is a group advocating to stop the killing of babies and another group, that you and the nuns support, that continue to advocating and promote the killing of God's children.

Right Anthony Weener

BirthCertificate
BirthCertificate

[quote]reojoe said: "WOW!!! I heard all of that today, word for word, on AM radio.What a coincidence!"[/quote]

So? This tells me two things. 1. Joe, I am glad you're opening your mind to other viewpoints by listening to something other than CNBC. and 2. since I don't listen to AM radio (or watch any of the cable political channels) there must be many more like me who think we're heading the wrong direction. These nun's are tools. Liberal lap dogs, basically. Female James Carville's hiding behind a religious organization. I think most people are smart enough to see this stunt for what it really is.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: "reojoe wrote: Then why haven't regressives, or our regressive dominated supreme court not made efforts to ban abortion? I find that curious............You then are suggesting that there has not been an effort to stop the killing and ban the murder of innocent children. You are crazy from drinking the koolaid of those progressing us forward off a cliff!As you know there is a group advocating to stop the killing of babies and another group, that you and the nuns support, that continue to advocating and promote the killing of God's children.Right Anthony Weener"[/quote]

I ask again: why hasn't the regressive court and why haven't regressives then banned abortion, Mark Foley?

How do you reconcile the fact that you endorse killing of people, as well, through wars and the death penalty, Mark Foley?

(Weener? Seriously? Like people even care about him, Mark Foley).

Answer my questions, Mark Foley.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]BirthCertificate said: "So? This tells me two things. 1. Joe, I am glad you're opening your mind to other viewpoints by listening to something other than CNBC. and 2. since I don't listen to AM radio (or watch any of the cable political channels) there must be many more like me who think we're heading the wrong direction. These nun's are tools. Liberal lap dogs, basically. Female James Carville's hiding behind a religious organization. I think most people are smart enough to see this stunt for what it really is."[/quote]

So, you've just admitted what I've said all along: it is completely incompatable to be a regressive and a Christian.

Your hatred of Christians shines through brightly.

Ever thought about Judaism, being that there's not a word of Jesus' that you like?

BirthCertificate
BirthCertificate

[quote]reojoe said: "So, you've just admitted what I've said all along: it is completely incompatable to be a regressive and a Christian.Your hatred of Christians shines through brightly.Ever thought about Judaism, being that there's not a word of Jesus' that you like?"[/quote]

Wow. Not sure how you deduced that from my paragraph. Joe, you don't know anything about me or my religous beliefs, so to claim to is arrogantly presumptuous.
I doubt the nun's ploy has much to do with Jesus or with cristianity and probably more to do with power, control and hatred of republican ideas.
Seems to me the right thing to do is help people gain independence from a government that pushes dependency. Of course that viewpoint doesn't play well with white guilt liberals and the democratic party, who use class warfare as a divisive voting tool.

ReoWeener
ReoWeener

The spokesman and platform expert of the Libs wrote: "How do you reconcile the fact that you endorse killing of people, as well, through wars and the death penalty, Mark Foley?"......................Apparently the Libs platform, that Catholic Nuns and reojoe support by voting Demo, is that there is no difference to killing in wars and executing a murderer through the court system with the death penalty with killing an innocent baby. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]BirthCertificate said: "Wow. Not sure how you deduced that from my paragraph. Joe, you don't know anything about me or my religous beliefs, so to claim to is arrogantly presumptuous.I doubt the nun's ploy has much to do with Jesus or with cristianity and probably more to do with power, control and hatred of republican ideas.Seems to me the right thing to do is help people gain independence from a government that pushes dependency. Of course that viewpoint doesn't play well with white guilt liberals and the democratic party, who use class warfare as a divisive voting tool. "[/quote]

White guilt, eh? I think the last time I read that phrase when when I directed my students onto racist websites to learn them about the "dynamics" of their ideologies. Nice to see that you follow in lockstep with avowed racists.

As for your last sentence, nah, YOU don't listen to AM radio. Good God!

Finally, no you aren't a Christian. What these women are protesting is regressives' advercating of cutting programs for
those in need. Ironically, you folks LOVE to rally the troops by telling people how people are suffering today from the "Obama econermy," yet want to cut assistance for these very suffering people. Now, whose more Christian based on that? Catholic nuns who want to see almsgiving for the poor remain, or a hate monger who wants to see these folks suffer for not "taking personal responserbilerty?" ;)

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: "The spokesman and platform expert of the Libs wrote: "How do you reconcile the fact that you endorse killing of people, as well, through wars and the death penalty, Mark Foley?"......................Apparently the Libs platform, that Catholic Nuns and reojoe support by voting Demo, is that there is no difference to killing in wars and executing a murderer through the court system with the death penalty with killing an innocent baby. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"[/quote]

What differentiation do you see in the 5th commandment in regard to killing, Mark Foley?

This is PERFECT proof of what I've been saying in regard to regressive ideology being incompatible with Christianity: the very fact that you think that the Fifth Commandment picks and chooses between killing couldn't illerstrate it better!

GOOD THINKING, Mark Foley.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]ReoWeener said: "killing an innocent baby."[/quote]

So, biblically, Mark Foley, when did man become a living soul?

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]BirthCertificate said: "I doubt the nun's ploy has much to do with Jesus or with cristianity and probably more to do with power, control and hatred of republican ideas."[/quote]

WTF? Nuns dedicate their entire lives to being the "bride of Christ" and you come along with this assertion! Devote just one year to living life as a nun lives, then come back and make the same assertion.
(I am not Catholic, but the comment was so asinine I had to respond.)

timbrackett
timbrackett

Some of the comments here are telling of how society has devolved. A group of women chose to live a life of self-sacrifice serving others, and blowhards hiding behind pseudonyms find it acceptable to call them "baby killers" and question where their true committment lies.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]timbrackett said: "Some of the comments here are telling of how society has devolved. A group of women chose to live a life of self-sacrifice serving others, and blowhards hiding behind pseudonyms find it acceptable to call them "baby killers" and question where their true committment lies."[/quote]

And all the while proclaiming themselves as the TRUE Christians.

IowanAtheist
IowanAtheist

[quote]timbrackett said: "WTF? Nuns dedicate their entire lives to being the "bride of Christ" and you come along with this assertion! Devote just one year to living life as a nun lives, then come back and make the same assertion. (I am not Catholic, but the comment was so asinine I had to respond.)"[/quote]

Sorry, I could never be a nun, let alone for a year. I could never knowingly be a member of an organization that not only condones pedophilia, but goes out of it's way to protect it's members from the law, and consistently enables them to abuse again and again.

the_bat
the_bat

So these nuns believe it is, somehow, moral for the government to spend money it really doesn't have, but will obligate future generations for, on programs for the professional recipient class and, furthermore, that Ryan's budget plan is, henceforth, immoral?

When nuns display such twisted reasoning, it's not hard to see how we have gotten so messed up.

^o^

the_bat
the_bat

[quote]reojoe said: "Nothing that stings regressive "Christians" more than learning that their breed of "Christianity" doesn't jibe with real Christianity and the words of Jesus.The comments on this thread prove it once again.God bless the Sistas!"[/quote]

This endorsement, right here, should tell these sisters just what kind of ecclesiastical company they are in.

Something about "shifting sands..."


^o^

the_bat
the_bat

So, apparently, in the thinking of some on here, to be a true Christian you have to support the confiscation, by government, of the fruits of individual labor and the subsequent redistribution of those fruits both to the government system that exists to confiscate those fruits and to the various recipient classes it uses to justify that confiscation?

Uhm... yes. That sounds very ecclesiastical.


^o^

BIL
BIL

[quote]the_bat said: "So, apparently, in the thinking of some on here, to be a true Christian you have to support the confiscation, by government, of the fruits of individual labor and the subsequent redistribution of those fruits both to the government system that exists to confiscate those fruits and to the various recipient classes it uses to justify that confiscation?Uhm... yes. That sounds very ecclesiastical.^o^"[/quote]

And yet Jesus paid his taxes and told others to do the same...

the_bat
the_bat

[quote]BIL said: "And yet Jesus paid his taxes and told others to do the same..."[/quote]

Something about "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's..." But, I'm not sure there's any biblical referance to Christ ever actually paying taxes?

And, in any case, the tax rates in that day & age, under ranged from 1 to 4%. So, yeah, lower the federal tax rates to something like 1 to 4%, and I'd be good with that.

In any case, it always amuses me to see those on the left who want to try to justify their positions supporting usurious taxes plus vast and overreaching centralized government bureaucracies, yet failing to see how fundamentally contradictory this is to any fundamentally Christian doctrine they "profess" to embrace.

Notice the quotes on the word "profess".


^o^
...And then they accuse conservatives of being hypocrites.

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]the_bat said: "In any case, it always amuses me to see those on the left who want to try to justify their positions supporting usurious taxes plus vast and overreaching centralized government bureaucracies, yet failing to see how fundamentally contradictory this is to any fundamentally Christian doctrine they "profess" to embrace."[/quote]

How so...

BIL
BIL

[quote]the_bat said: "Something about "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's..." But, I'm not sure there's any biblical referance to Christ ever actually paying taxes?[/quote]

Actually there is:
"Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee."

[quote]In any case, it always amuses me to see those on the left [...] Christian doctrine they "profess" to embrace. Notice the quotes on the word "profess".[/quote]

I don't profess anything. I think religion, Christianity included, is a gigantic sham that creates more mind-numbing control over people than anything the government could ever come up with. It always amuses ME when an atheist like me points out stuff in the Bible that people who "profess" to love the Bible don't know about.

GODBODY
GODBODY

Quick Thought: jesus was for the poor, satan was against the poor..now these nuns are saying this repub paul plan would hurt the poor...hmmmmm. Hypothetically speaking if i was satan, the repub party would be my party of choice.

the_bat
the_bat

[quote]GODBODY said: "Quick Thought: jesus was for the poor, satan was against the poor..now these nuns are saying this repub paul plan would hurt the poor...hmmmmm. Hypothetically speaking if i was satan, the repub party would be my party of choice. "[/quote]

This is a brilliant example of why we need to quit this lunacy of encouraging everybody to vote. Some people are just not sufficiently equipped.

^o^

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