WATERLOO, Iowa --- A brutal fight that claimed the life of a Waterloo teen started with taunting, witnesses said.

Police confirmed that 19-year-old Marcellus Richard Andrews was officially pronounced dead at about 3:30 p.m. Sunday. Relatives and acquaintances said he died after being removed from life support at an Iowa City hospital.

"It's just not fair," said friend Nakita Wright. "I don't wish that to happen to my worst enemy."

Officers and paramedics said they found Andrews unconscious with severe head injuries in the early morning hours Friday.

Andrews, who was slated to start studying interior design at Hawkeye Community College, spent part of Thursday practicing with members of the Crusaders, a drill team sponsored by Union Missionary Baptist Church. He led the step team for the group, which was days away from competing in March Against Darkness.

Night found him at Nakita Wright's home on Cottage Street.

She said the problems started at about 12:45 a.m. Friday when she and Tudia Simpson, her cousin, went for a walk down the street. Andrews opted to stay behind, waiting on the enclosed porch, she said.

The two women hadn't made it as far as Adams Street a block away when they heard yelling back at the house. They ran back and found a truck stopped in the street, and the occupants were taunting Andrews, calling him "faggot" and "Mercedes," a feminization of his first name, Simpson said.

The arguing and name calling continued, said Simpson, who admitted throwing the first punch, striking a girl.

"She kept saying it, and I hit her," Simpson said.

From there, the fight was on, with Nakita Wright and the others joining in, according to their account.

At some point during the scuffle, Nakita Wright felt her leg brush against something on the ground. She looked down and saw Andrews.

"I tried to help him up, and then this boy ran back and kicked him in his face," Nakita Wright said.

After the brawl ended, she tried helping Andrews to his feet. He appeared dazed. She grabbed one arm and coaxed him as she lifted. He pushed up with his other arm, but then gave up.

Nakita Wright dialed 911.

He was flown to University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics for treatment.

Word of his passing came as the Crusaders Drill Team took part in the March Against Darkness competition at Central Middle School, said Alexis Wright, a cousin of Nakita who works with the Crusaders.

In addition to being step team captain, Andrews had helped train team members, Alexis Wright said.

"He would practice with the little ones, making sure they get it," she said.

Andrews had been scheduled to lead the team's Saturday night performance and deliver the opening salute.

Instead, when the event started, organizers had a moment of silence for Andrews, who at that time was understood to be on life support. Later, during an intermission, officials broke the news he wasn't going to pull through over the public address system, Alexis Wright said.

"All the children were affected by it. When they announced, they were literally on the floor crying," she said.

It was a tragic end to a busy weekend for the team, which started the with a parade in Parkersburg and another Saturday event before the March Against Darkness, Alexis Wright said.

Andrews had studied at La James College and took part in Job Corps. He had bought his Hawkeye college textbooks earlier in the week.

Authorities continue to investigate the assault. No arrests have been made in the case.

EARLIER STORY

WATERLOO, Iowa --- A Waterloo teen who was hospitalized after being beaten early Friday morning has died, police said Sunday evening.

Police this evening confirmed the death of 19-year-old Marcellus Richard Andrews. Police said Andrews was officially declared deceased Sunday afternoon, but relatives and acquaintances said he died Saturday night after being removed from life support at an Iowa City hospital.

Word came as members of the Union Missionary Baptist Church's Crusaders Drill Team took part in the March Against Darkness competition at Central Middle School, said Alexis Wright, who works with the Crusaders.

Andrews was a captain of the Crusaders's step team and also helped train team members, Alexis Wright said.

"He would practice with the little ones, making sure they get it."

Andrews had been scheduled to lead the team's performance and deliver the opening salute Saturday.

Instead, when the event started, organizers had a moment of silence for Andrews, who at that time was understood to be on life support. Later, during an intermission, officials broke the news of his death over the public address system, Alexis Wright said.

"All the children were effected by it. When they announced, they were literally on the floor crying," she said.

It was a tragic end to a busy weekend for the team, which started the with a parade in Parkersburg and another Saturday event before the March Against Darkness, Alexis Wright said.

Andrews had studied at La James College, a cosmetology school, and was slated to start at the interior design program at Hawkeye Community College on Monday, friends said. He bought his textbooks earlier in the week.

Authorities continue to investigate the assault, which happened at about 12:45 a.m. Friday in the 200 block of Conger Street. No arrests have been made in the case.

Witnesses said Andrews was hanging out at a friend's home when a group of people in a vehicle pulled up and began taunting him. A fight ensued, and Andrews was punched, kicked and knocked down.

Police and paramedics called to the scene found Andrews with severe head trauma, and he was flown to University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics.

(107) comments

purpleleo

Scuh a tragic loss of a Beautiful Soul ... I didn't know this young man, but my Heart aches for his family. God Bless them and help them in the days to come. I pray the little ones he influenced will carry his Spirit forward.

pepsican1

i hope the cowards that did this get exactly what they deserve!!

pantherfan1

Let me guess nobody heard or saw anything either? Need A&E to bring a camera crew to shoot the First 48 in Waterloo the way it is going. Someone saw something, speak up!

metrofuel1

Very sad story. From reading the story it sounds as if he had a plan to continue to lead a productive life and to do good. Just another story of how young people out driving around late at night generally leads to no good. My condolences to the family.

wloo42

I was thinking the same thing pantherfan, about nobody seeing anything again.... Someone out there knows... speak up, next time it might be your kid.

StacieJM
StacieJM

[quote]metrofuel1 said: "Very sad story. From reading the story it sounds as if he had a plan to continue to lead a productive life and to do good. Just another story of how young people out driving around late at night generally leads to no good. My condolences to the family."[/quote]

Well said. There is nothing more sad than a young, promising life cut short before having the chance to really begin! With love & prayers to the family of Marcellus Andrews.

bigblklady
bigblklady

This is horrible and I pray they catch who did this to him. Prayers to friends and family. May his soul live on through the lil ones he helped.

panther13
panther13

after reading the update it is clear that no discrimination exists against homosexuals and it is clearly a choice. (Sarcasm alert)

IowanAtheist

I was wondering how long it would take before this came out. Outside of 'gang' activity, homophobic bigots attacking was the next most likely reason for this tragedy.

gramma of 2

This young man sounded like a very nice and intelligent person. Helpful to others and has gone somewhere in his life for the better. Who cares what his sexual preference was, he was being called "faggot". This doesn't make him a bad person. My cousin was gay and he was the best, he was loving, caring, would do anything for anyone.
I hope they catch these people that did this to him and charge them with murder!! My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends of this young man.

PianoTeacher11

Thoughts and prayers go out to this young man's family and friends. Such a horrible thing to happen to anyone! I hope that the people who committed this heinous crime are held accountable for their actions!

mother3

Obviously the murderers knew their victim, now surely his friends could recognize them as well.

IowanAtheist

[quote]panther13 said: "after reading the update it is clear that no discrimination exists against homosexuals and it is clearly a choice. (Sarcasm alert)"[/quote]

No kidding. Regardless of the sexual orientation of the victim, the attackers clearly thought he was homosexual and thus targeted him. This is the sort of behavior you find in the most backwards of countries -- and evidently in our backyards. Normally, I am not a NIMBY -- but in this case, I will make an exception.

wloofan2000

Maybe some well-known people in prominent positions should stop making homosexual people appear less than human. They may not have beat this kid, but they contributed to the hate that led to it.

gkb32
gkb32

"The arguing and name calling continued, said Simpson, who admitted throwing the first punch, striking a girl."

Whatever happened to just going back inside and possibly calling the police? Throwing the first punch? Hate to say it, but fighting is, and was not the answer. Any fight can lead to death. Just getting punched once. Case in point, the gal who was punched in her car at a Quik Trip a year or so ago and then died later from bleeding on the brain.

I realize that the perps were taunting and name-calling and are by all accounts, loser punks. But why start a fight with punks who were obviously looking for a fight? Just walk away. Such a terrible and sad event. Sounds like he was a kid that had a good head on his shoulders and was a fine young man. So sad.

And I guarantee that the police have the names of some of the perps in this case. They are just making sure they follow procedures and will pick them up in due time.

iowa41

I wonder if he and his friends had just went back inside if this wouldn't have turned out different.If his friend threw the first punch at the name callers that may have been the trigger that turned harassment into a deadly assault.

mytigger

I have to say, where are the parents of these "bullies" and why would they think it's ok to target a homesexual, IF that is what he is. It should not matter what type of person he is, he should NOT have been killed or beat up because of who he is! If my kids ever pulled something like this I would turn them in MYSELF!!! I would NEVER teach my child that it's ok to be mean to others just because of who they are or for any reason!!

I feel for this family and I HOPE they catch who did this!!

83grad

My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends of this fine young man. This just makes my heart ache. Sounds like a good person, definitely on the right track. The people responsible will be caught and held accountable. I'm sure of it.

love
love

you can never blame someone for throwing the first punch cus in these days if we dont stand up for who we love then who will yes the boy may have been the way he is but if he was my friend and that was me i think i would of did the same a good friend is what it sound's like to me and just because the two girls were fighting did not mean for the other's to get in it i walk around everyday not knowing if someone will say something to me for who i am and if i had a friend like that i would do the same i do say that yes sometime's you should walk away but it sound's like to me that they were protecting someone they care about..

TimXXX
TimXXX

Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces.

IowanAtheist

[quote]love said: "you can never blame someone for throwing the first punch cus in these days if we dont stand up for who we love then who will yes the boy may have been the way he is but if he was my friend and that was me i think i would of did the same a good friend is what it sound's like to me and just because the two girls were fighting did not mean for the other's to get in it i walk around everyday not knowing if someone will say something to me for who i am and if i had a friend like that i would do the same i do say that yes sometime's you should walk away but it sound's like to me that they were protecting someone they care about.."[/quote]

Love, got any punctuation? No need to hoard it, feel free to use it, as well as capital letters. That said, yes -- we can blame him for throwing the first punch. He escalated name calling into a fight that cost someone their *life*. That's not something a friend does for you. Friends keep you safe.

gkb32
gkb32

love: "you can never blame someone for throwing the first punch cus in these days if we dont stand up for who we love then who will."

I disagree. Name-calling versus physical violence are very different. If someone called my friend a name, does that give me the right to just punch him/her? No.

PantherGirl

This just makes me so sad... well said metrofuel1.

wloofan2000

[quote]TimXXX said: "Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces. "[/quote]

I disagree. If you don't stick up for yourself when these people sought him out (he was not the one looking for trouble), then the harassment will keep coming. It was a tragic ending, but not one this boy had any fault in.

t_jefferson

I dont believe that anything I read indicated this young man's sexual orientation. It really doesnt matter. I am not pro-gay, I am not anti-gay, I do not care about that. Unless you know the person, do not slander them.

This is a hate crime. It is murder. Very simple. Maybe the thugs had parents, or, maybe they were old enough just to be plain thugs, it really doesnt matter since they obviously have degenerated to the lowest possible life form not worthy of being called human.

I seriously doubt that if the friend had not thrown the first punch, then things would have been ok. This group was out for trouble, and trouble would have been found, regardless.

Maybe gang related, I am not sure, but I DO hope that the WPD has a line on ALL of these sub-human creatures and that they ALL are locked up for the rest of their un-natural lives.

mbreddin

[quote]TimXXX said: "Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces. "[/quote]

I am shocked by your comment! This boy was sitting on his porch. If he is open about his sexuality, that doesn't give anyone the right to harass him. This is like saying that a woman asked to be raped because she wore a short skirt. Stop blaming hatred on the person who is being hated. These perpetrators deserve to be charged with this murder!

littlewing043

The Courier nixed my original comment, I will continue until my thoughts are posted after all this is America & the freedom to speak one's mind is a given (unless it comes into opposition to the Editors) - This may very well be proven a hate crime and should be tried as such. A mob jumping a couple of kids and kicking a young man in the head while yelling epitaphs would indicate they were indeed out skulking for this young man, rather than a chance run in. Let us hope this brings some much needed national attention to the entire CV, and applies some pressure to those that seemingly continue to try and convince themselves this is still the Waterloo/CF of the 1970's.

whycantwejustgetalong

If these girls says that he was there friend, why would they put this in the paper calling him all these names? friends don't do that!!!!! I would have told my story but i wouldn't have mention the name calling for the public to judge him.

whycantwejustgetalong

Every one is wondering who did this, we don't have to wonder these girls come up with this story why dont they tell who was all involved. that's why i think there is more to this story, sounds like they are trying to cover there butts.....

IowaFan80
IowaFan80

I can't believe I'm reading about this happening in my own state. The state that legalized gay marriage two years ago...

It's disappointing, saddening, and it makes my blood boil. I can't believe people in this state would do this. The police better find these guys before someone else does...I feel some vigilante justice coming if they don't get leads fast.

I'd say this is insanity, and that someone could do this makes me think that religious-fueled bigotry should be punishable by death. Stupid people who do crap like this makes me think they value no life over their own and don't deserve to grow up to spread gene pool poison to the rest of the planet.

kornpett

This is obviously a hate crime and should be prosecuted as such.
http://www.hrc.org/issues/hate_crimes/921.htm

mytigger

t_jefferson, I didn't know the young man and wasn't meaning to sound like he was homosexual. I was reading other posts and I agree, it doesn't matter what his orientation is. He was a young man that was beat, for what? Bottom line, stupid reasons! I know many of these thugs probably have parents and honestly they probably don't give a crap, which is quite sad.

I do hope, also, that WPD finds the people that did this and charge them with murder!

michaelsingh

I sincerely hope that something good comes out of this horrible tradegy.

Maybe Rev. Marvin Jenkins of the Union Missionary
Baptist Church maybe starts preaching about the terrible consequences of homophobia.

Some people are born homosexual.

They are not better or worse than anyone else.

They are not a threat.

They are not there to be treated worse than anyone else, or differently to anyone else.

They are not there to be ridiculed, laughed at or harrassed.

That if you are teaching your children to hate homosexuals that you doing them & others a grave disservice.

That we need to get over our fears, our embarrasment and accept people for who they are.

RIP Marcellus Andrews.

May the people who did this to you get justice.

May we learn from the good that you did in your life and from your death. And do all that we can so this does not happen again.


stevejmc

I woke up to news of the GAY BASHING in your city this morning. Shameful. How will Michelle Bachmann respond to the intolerance in her home town I wonder.
Oh yeah, I live in Toronto -- it's all over the blogs here but it was linked from a friend of mine from London, UK where he read it.
UFC Courier, you have carefully not mentioned that this appears to be a bashing in your small local paper - why????
The rest of the planet is reporting what appears to be the truth of the situation so maybe go out on a limb and report the truth?? Don't want to offend the bigots? That creationists and flat-earthers? Time to evolve.

stevejmc

[quote]TimXXX said: "Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces. "[/quote]

That's the face of intolerance and bigotry!

Why is this comment allowed to stay on your web site when you are removing other people's comments that are not even hateful?

IowanAtheist

[quote]littlewing043 said: "The Courier nixed my original comment, I will continue until my thoughts are posted after all this is America & the freedom to speak one's mind is a given (unless it comes into opposition to the Editors) - This may very well be proven a hate crime and should be tried as such. A mob jumping a couple of kids and kicking a young man in the head while yelling epitaphs would indicate they were indeed out skulking for this young man, rather than a chance run in. Let us hope this brings some much needed national attention to the entire CV, and applies some pressure to those that seemingly continue to try and convince themselves this is still the Waterloo/CF of the 1970's. "[/quote]

Free speech only prevents government censorship. The paper is an independent, private organization and can censor in any way they see fit.

Hey stevejmc: Why are you so invested in a local crime in Waterloo Iowa when you have a much worse environment for gay residents of Toronto? (where you claim to be from). Try googling "Toronto Gay Bashing" and pick any of the dozens of recent crimes and pop off about those in the local Toronto paper. Here's one to get you started: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/01/23/16999581.html. Have no fear; our local police department will solve this crime and our local County Attorney will prosecute the wrong-doers and they'll end up in a State prison. You should focus on stopping the plethora of crimes against gays in your own hometown. Here's what you may not understand about the duties of a local newspaper...we all depend on our newspaper to provide factual news. This story has been reported accurately and as more details, THAT CAN BE PROVEN, are discovered the Courier will run an appropriate story. Now the Courier's duty to print factual stories might not fit your agenda of "fanning an imaginary flame" but since you don't subscribe and I do...be gone.

Chester11
Chester11

[quote]stevejmc said: "That's the face of intolerance and bigotry!Why is this comment allowed to stay on your web site when you are removing other people's comments that are not even hateful?"[/quote]

Yea, I don't get it either. The Courier lopped my comment back to TimXXX. TimXXX is one of those most hatefilled commenters at this site. Coupled with his confederate flag av.
Then again, he's just another typical anonymous tough guy.

This kid did not in any way deserve what happened to him. How ignorant do you gotta be?

unifight84

My heart is literally in shreds right now. I can't believe people out there are so hateful that they would take a life of another human being simply because he was different from them. This just makes me even more sick that these crazy dominionists are trying to run for office, as they are probably rejoicing in something like this.

AL65

FEDERAL HATE CRIME LAW.


I hope they all get LIFE IN PRISON for these hate crimes.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]mytigger said: "I have to say, where are the parents of these "bullies" and why would they think it's ok to target a homesexual, IF that is what he is. It should not matter what type of person he is, he should NOT have been killed or beat up because of who he is! If my kids ever pulled something like this I would turn them in MYSELF!!! I would NEVER teach my child that it's ok to be mean to others just because of who they are or for any reason!! I feel for this family and I HOPE they catch who did this!!"[/quote]

What makes you think that the parents ever condoned such talk or actions? You never did anything that your parents taught you the opposite of?

IowanAtheist

[quote]unifight84 said: "My heart is literally in shreds right now. I can't believe people out there are so hateful that they would take a life of another human being simply because he was different from them. This just makes me even more sick that these crazy dominionists are trying to run for office, as they are probably rejoicing in something like this. "[/quote]

I think you mean 'figuratively'. If it is 'literally' in shreds, you never would have been able to complete that whole post before passign out and dying.

AL65

Federal hate crime law is now in effect.

I hope the feds charge every single one of these kids that touched Andrew.

Attacking and killing your neighbors only because they are different will not be tolerated in this country.


mytigger

Reojoe said: What makes you think that the parents ever condoned such talk or actions? You never did anything that your parents taught you the opposite of?


I did do things opposite of what my parents taught me but I NEVER disrepected another human being because that is what I WAS taught. I was taught that you treat ALL people the same no matter what! I NEVER went out to look for a fight against someone else because they were different. Kids nowadays are WAY different than when I grew up... anymore snobby questions????

unifight84

Ha, thanks IowanAtheist. I'm in a bad habit of trying to express things that I'm passionate about with that word.

DaddyTJ
DaddyTJ

[quote]michaelsingh said: "I sincerely hope that something good comes out of this horrible tradegy.Maybe Rev. Marvin Jenkins of the Union Missionary Baptist Church maybe starts preaching about the terrible consequences of homophobia.Some people are born homosexual.They are not better or worse than anyone else.They are not a threat.They are not there to be treated worse than anyone else, or differently to anyone else.They are not there to be ridiculed, laughed at or harrassed.That if you are teaching your children to hate homosexuals that you doing them & others a grave disservice.That we need to get over our fears, our embarrasment and accept people for who they are.RIP Marcellus Andrews.May the people who did this to you get justice.May we learn from the good that you did in your life and from your death. And do all that we can so this does not happen again."[/quote]

I would just like to point out that there is no scientific proof anyone is born gay or straight. It is a learned behavior. If you disagree, feel free to point me in the direction of scientific fact that there is a gay gene you are born with. Attraction to the same sex is a behavior, much the same way that people have attractions to certain body types, hair color, races. Disagree if you will, but you also can't prove me wrong.

With that being said, it's sad he died. These kids will probably be charged with manslaughter at best since they can most likely prove, based on this young mans friends who threw the first punch, that they were defending themselves. It's sad, but that's the most I see happening with it. This young man lost his life. Sadly, it was his friends who started the physical altercation though.

And I agree on the Courier randomly deleting posts...I bet this won't even get posted to be honest. Someone posted about the death penalty the other day...I responded...now both posts are gone...the Courier editors like to pick and choose what they allow through (if it differs from their opinion, forget about it) and it will be what drives a lot of their online readers away. I went a week at one point before I got a post to go through simply because my opinion regarding something clearly differed from theirs...3 different computers, 4 different IP addresses and nothing went through, so it wasn't on my end. Get with it people...

AL65

[quote]DaddyTJ said: "I would just like to point out that there is no scientific proof anyone is born gay or straight. It is a learned behavior. "[/quote]

Could you be any more foolish?

There are literally hundreds of studies and plenty of research that shows homosexuality is not purely a choice. From MRIs to genetic research. You need to do some reading.

I've NEVER met a gay person that says their homosexuality is a "learned behavior".

You couldn't be more wrong.

AL65

[quote]DaddyTJ said: "These kids will probably be charged with manslaughter at best since they can most likely prove, based on this young mans friends who threw the first punch, that they were defending themselves. "[/quote]

Again you need to read up on LAW as well. "Throwing the first punch" will have NOTHING to do with the verdict.

iowa41

Attn TJ,,I don't have medical studies but have seen numerous large families where a child may act completely different than siblings of the same sex just a year older and a year younger.There are millions of possible genetic combinations in each person,when you combine that with hormonal fluctuations during pregnancy it is surprising that so many people fit into what is considered normal behavior.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]mytigger said: "Reojoe said: What makes you think that the parents ever condoned such talk or actions? You never did anything that your parents taught you the opposite of?I did do things opposite of what my parents taught me but I NEVER disrepected another human being because that is what I WAS taught. I was taught that you treat ALL people the same no matter what! I NEVER went out to look for a fight against someone else because they were different. Kids nowadays are WAY different than when I grew up... anymore snobby questions????"[/quote]

Ah, yes. The old "kids nowdays."

I still say it now, but I've never met kids MORE disrespectful than the group of kids that I hung out wit as a kid and this was the 1970's, in the "good ol' wholesome days."

I personally wonder what's wrong with kids these days, in the sense that they AREN'T as disrespectful as we were in my day. And, yes, I have two young adult children, so I've been around plenty of kids of today.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]AL65 said: "Could you be any more foolish?There are literally hundreds of studies and plenty of research that shows homosexuality is not purely a choice. From MRIs to genetic research. You need to do some reading.I've NEVER met a gay person that says their homosexuality is a "learned behavior".You couldn't be more wrong."[/quote]

Actually, I work within the very field that would 'support" what you say, and it is you who are wrong: there's no such thing as a "sexuality gene," whether that be gay or straight.

Keep in mind that genes don't have the abilerty to make you do anything. Genes simply provide a blueprint, while society takes over the behavior part of things.

if you can show me a study that shows that genes actually make you act in certain ways, I'd be curious to read it.

BIL
BIL

[quote]TimXXX said: "Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces. "[/quote]

Disgusting.

Your attitude of intolerance helps to create the environment that lead to this murder.

I believe in an America where you can be anything you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else.

You apparently believe in an America where anyone out of the ordinary should keep themselves locked up at home, lest they "provoke" bigots to beat them to death.

I'd go on with much stronger words, but I want this comment to make it online.

IowanAtheist

[quote]reojoe said: "Actually, I work within the very field that would 'support" what you say, and it is you who are wrong: there's no such thing as a "sexuality gene," whether that be gay or straight.Keep in mind that genes don't have the abilerty to make you do anything. Genes simply provide a blueprint, while society takes over the behavior part of things.if you can show me a study that shows that genes actually make you act in certain ways, I'd be curious to read it."[/quote]

Just because it is not genetic does not make it a choice. Hormone levels in utero can and do effect the development of a fetus. The environment surrounding the child can effect the growing child as well -- and it would still not be a choice. Think about fear of heights -- most cases of this are believed to be related to the environment of the growing child, and no one would say it is a 'choice' to be afraid of heights. Study after study has shown that it is not a choice, and it is really old fashioned to pretend it is -- and that's assuming that this poor kid *was* homosexual, and not just a straight person interested in these activities accused of being homosexual by these bigots.

chefraphael

another story that will be investigated by homophobic officers and washed under the table as conveniently and quickly as possible... It's just a murdered gay teen...
The most effective way a society could take advantage of modern social engine access would be to publish quickly the names of the involved beating individuals... Clearly there ought to be a name and pictures to be put onto the net, so we clearly recognize who is straight, tough and has no shame kicking a gay kid in the head (that was already on the ground)... Hey, and the one commenting on "gay is a choice" kinda message, put a picture up - show face too! You're cool - right?

kornpett

reojoe (and others): First, surely you are not suggesting that if someone chooses to be gay, that it is then morally acceptable to beat that person to death. Second, there is, in fact, scientific evidence to support both a genetic and environmental causes of homosexuality. The homosexuality concordance rate for male identical (MZ) twins is 52%, suggesting a genetic basis for the behavior. However, there is also evidence that the prenatal environment, specifically exposure to high levels of androgens (male hormones) is a causal factor in homosexuality.

You are not entitled to made up "facts."

Justfortoday

First, my condolences to the family and loved ones of this lost life. So very sad.

Now, I have to wonder WHY these girls decided to go for a walk at 1am in the morning? Also, this young man wasn't on his porch, he was visiting a friend. Sooooo, this leads me to believe that there is far more to this than a hate crime based on his sexuality or implied homosexuality? I feel these 1 girls know alot more than they are saying and could very well be knee deep in this situation and provoking it all along. They should be held accountable for their actions also and they should be telling the police everything they know including whoever did do this. You KNOW they know who did it. TJ, you're a blathering idiot if you think ANYONE would CHOOSE to be gay? What is WRONG WITH YOU?

dcltrueleft

Why no further reporting on this? I've seen it covered by far-flung online news sources, as well as by bloggers and Facebook users. Why the silence from official Waterloo? Police? Mayor's Office? City Council? Courier editorialists?

vjnorman3

another life loss, such a tragic loss i am praying for the family and for other's. This will affect alot of ppl. God bless the familys of all...He will be missed...

Daveb47
Daveb47

I'm not a big fan of the hate crime law and its selective application. If you intentionally attack someone it is not usually done out of love. That being said this is just another senseless crime and another young life lost for no real reason. While it would seem that sexual orientation may have been brought up, since one of his friends through the first punch it would be hard to define as the cause for the violence. I find it extremely difficult to believe that the friends of the victim don't know who the other party was, or how did the other party know anything about the victim? Either way my condolences go out to his family.

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]Chester11 said: "Yea, I don't get it either. The Courier lopped my comment back to TimXXX. TimXXX is one of those most hatefilled commenters at this site. Coupled with his confederate flag av. Then again, he's just another typical anonymous tough guy. This kid did not in any way deserve what happened to him. How ignorant do you gotta be? "[/quote]

Agreed.

john554

Fred Phelps, etc. all share responsibility for this kind of tragedy. It's a culture of intolerance. And hello moderators, what's up with TimXXX. You really let klan members on here unmoderated?

I Scream In The Sun
I Scream In The Sun

People have compared being gay to being left-handed. Are people left-handed from birth? Are they forced to conform to the many things in this world which are oriented for right-handed people? Do many make a conscious decision to become right-handed, and then transition and be a "normal" right-handed person for the rest of their life? Are some people born right-handed, and then one day on a whim they decide to try doing something left-handed and they find out that's actually their preference? And are some people ambidextrous? I'm not claiming to have any of these answers, but rather, offering a series of questions which could be a useful metaphorical bridge for those trying to understand homosexuality, and whether it is genetic, a choice, upbringing, etc. I tend to think it likely has answers in congruency to that of the questions above.

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]Daveb47 said: "I'm not a big fan of the hate crime law and its selective application. If you intentionally attack someone it is not usually done out of love. That being said this is just another senseless crime and another young life lost for no real reason. While it would seem that sexual orientation may have been brought up, since one of his friends through the first punch it would be hard to define as the cause for the violence. I find it extremely difficult to believe that the friends of the victim don't know who the other party was, or how did the other party know anything about the victim? Either way my condolences go out to his family. "[/quote]

I agree with you 100 percent because the friends know who the boys was and they seem like they are covering there own butts because they don't want to go to jail.... I think when you hold some evidence then you should be charged with the rest of them. that was sad that this younge man had to die this way and justice should be served and violance is not the answer. the statement in the paper that Tauda made about throwing the first punch is ignored, she thinks is cute to be bragging on how it happen. WHERE THEY DO THAT AT, SAYING IT WAS ON? Some people need to get off the streets and read a book or raise there kids. I'm just saying the world need peace.

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]pepsican1 said: "i hope the cowards that did this get exactly what they deserve!! "[/quote]

I think that the boys that did this must be one of the young ladies boyfriend or something why they are trying to protect him.. waterloo police need to call 48 hours or put them in the LITTE ROOM AND THEN I BET YOU SOMEBODY WOULD TALK THEN....

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]IowanAtheist said: "I was wondering how long it would take before this came out. Outside of 'gang' activity, homophobic bigots attacking was the next most likely reason for this tragedy. "[/quote]

Regardless what he was he did not deserve to die like this, the law is that no one should put there hands on nobody. these thugs need to be put behind the bars and throw away the key. when they go to prison somebody might do the same thing to them that's why they scared and not turning thereself in. (scary scary)

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]mother3 said: "Obviously the murderers knew their victim, now surely his friends could recognize them as well. "[/quote]

I wonder the reason they are not talking is because maybe they was involved and now there spooked and ran to the courier and made up a story... like some of us readers will not fall for that! we are smart we no when we smell some fish

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]iowa41 said: "I wonder if he and his friends had just went back inside if this wouldn't have turned out different.If his friend threw the first punch at the name callers that may have been the trigger that turned harassment into a deadly assault. "[/quote]
Don't you think that maybe they set this young man up for this.. where do they do that at go for a walk in the middle of the night... lets wake up readers something smells with the story they told the courier.

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]gkb32 said: "love: "you can never blame someone for throwing the first punch cus in these days if we dont stand up for who we love then who will."I disagree. Name-calling versus physical violence are very different. If someone called my friend a name, does that give me the right to just punch him/her? No."[/quote]

THE LAW SAYS TO WALK AWAY AND IF TAUDA WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY THEN HE WOULD BE ALIVE NOW

To add some more facts to the story I'd like to invite everyone to read the updated article. Sounds like it wasn't a hate crime. The witnesses are recanting and the hype is evaporating like smoke in the wind. So far, it's just a case of stupid punks...sorry it doesn't help anyone promote an agenda.

exiowanthankgod

well i dont understand why people are so shocked this been going on in waterloo for years. i think we should treat these thugs like we treat terrorist because thats exactly what they are home grown terrorist maybe bring our troop home and put them in waterloo and well see how bad these thugs really are. and another thing why aint the NAACP marching if a police officer puts the cuffs on a criminal to hard they are marching all day long but let a black man get beat to death by thugs and they are hiding where are the black leaders of this town when something like this happens seems like they have there prioritys really mixed up to me

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]B786alo said: "To add some more facts to the story I'd like to invite everyone to read the updated article. Sounds like it wasn't a hate crime. The witnesses are recanting and the hype is evaporating like smoke in the wind. So far, it's just a case of stupid punks...sorry it doesn't help anyone promote an agenda."[/quote]

Agenda?

Stana

Well to the the people who think that only people up after 1am are troublesome. I have been up after midnight and well later than that for 5 nights in a roll celebrating my friends weddings etc... a blast no one got hurt we drank responsibly or had buses to drive us to the hotel....

Gay people are born that way....In the old days they hid it.. still do...I have 3 very dear men friends whom happen to be gay and they have all three have been married to woman for many many years and have 10 children between them...They were gay the whole time.. not bi sexual...gay men...it sickens me that the next Da vinci or michelangelo should be killed because of this

bigblklady
bigblklady

It is articles like this that make it hard when it comes time to find a jury. I do not think that the details from a witness should really be in here. I feel as though that is for the police reports.

If he was gay he was gay. Makes this even worse of a situation in my opinion. We as parents need to teach our kids to be accepting of ALL choices of others. We live our lives and they live theirs. I can NOT believe somebody died here in my town because he was gay.

I also want to say that I think that throwing the first punch was not okay. You can stick up for your friends without violence. I do. I am NOT a fighter. I will only put my hands on somebody if they are trying to hurt me and put their hands on me first. There is no excuse for putting your hands on another person in that act of violence. If we all would teach our kids to NOT hit others and pick on others the world would be just a little bit safer. If we do not teach violence, there will not be as much violence.

@timbrackett: yup, Agenda!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]kornpett said: "reojoe (and others): First, surely you are not suggesting that if someone chooses to be gay, that it is then morally acceptable to beat that person to death. Second, there is, in fact, scientific evidence to support both a genetic and environmental causes of homosexuality. The homosexuality concordance rate for male identical (MZ) twins is 52%, suggesting a genetic basis for the behavior. However, there is also evidence that the prenatal environment, specifically exposure to high levels of androgens (male hormones) is a causal factor in homosexuality.You are not entitled to made up "facts.""[/quote]

Really? So, then what happens in those 48% of cases, if it is ALL due to genetics?

Keep in mind that when twin studies are used to "illustrate" how genes determine human behavior, you MUST be talking about 100% of cases for it to be SOLELY due to genetics.

In all twin studies I read, NEVER is it higher than 50% of cases, and why I call into question your "data."

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]IowanAtheist said: "Just because it is not genetic does not make it a choice. Hormone levels in utero can and do effect the development of a fetus. The environment surrounding the child can effect the growing child as well -- and it would still not be a choice. Think about fear of heights -- most cases of this are believed to be related to the environment of the growing child, and no one would say it is a 'choice' to be afraid of heights. Study after study has shown that it is not a choice, and it is really old fashioned to pretend it is -- and that's assuming that this poor kid *was* homosexual, and not just a straight person interested in these activities accused of being homosexual by these bigots."[/quote]

I've said nothing of it being a "choice." That's even more short sighted and ignorant than the belief that a gene determines human behavior. Genes don't have that capability to make us behave, period.

What I DO say is that sexuality is learned within the context of your culture, society, and environment. Something can CERTAINLY be learned and not deliberately chosen. Such is the case with human sexuality, and such is my argument.

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]B786alo said: "@timbrackett: yup, Agenda!"[/quote]

The agenda of reading a news story and then commenting on the content of said news story?

JRD

[quote]reojoe said: "I've said nothing of it being a "choice." That's even more short sighted and ignorant than the belief that a gene determines human behavior. Genes don't have that capability to make us behave, period.What I DO say is that sexuality is learned within the context of your culture, society, and environment. Something can CERTAINLY be learned and not deliberately chosen. Such is the case with human sexuality, and such is my argument. "[/quote]

Asserting that a person's sexuality might be learned but not chosen is a distinction without a difference and is as silly as your previous statement:

"Genes simply provide a blueprint, while society takes over the behavior part of things.if you can show me a study that shows that genes actually make you act in certain ways, I'd be curious to read it."

If you can show me a study that says "society" is responsible for the fact that about 7% of rams will have nothing to do with ewes, I'd love to read it.

Not so much timbrackett. The act of reading a news story and then making up facts to help promote a personal agenda. Also known to cause readers to assume facts not in evidence and fill in any gaps that are not yet known. Example: I want to garner additional sympathy for gay individuals so I'll label this crime as gay bashing even though the facts are not yet in.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]JRD said: "Asserting that a person's sexuality might be learned but not chosen is a distinction without a difference and is as silly as your previous statement:"Genes simply provide a blueprint, while society takes over the behavior part of things.if you can show me a study that shows that genes actually make you act in certain ways, I'd be curious to read it."If you can show me a study that says "society" is responsible for the fact that about 7% of rams will have nothing to do with ewes, I'd love to read it."[/quote]

Error #1: Comparing animal and human behavior. It cannot, and should not, be don. Period.

You don't see a difference in choosing a behavior and learning a behavior? Really? I can deliberately choose to do something, whereas I can do something as a result of my learning that behavior.

In regard to sexuality, of course we don't just sit down one day and make a choice of gay, straight, bisexual, or asexual. However, we LEARN to become attracted to whatever it is that attracts us, all within a social and cultural context of what is defined as "attractive."

To somehow think that children come out of the wombs immediately as sexual beings with no input from our society and cultural regarding sexuality is complete foolishness. However, to believe what you believe has to happen exactly in that way.

I'd like to know where you get your idears from...

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]B786alo said: "Not so much timbrackett. The act of reading a news story and then making up facts to help promote a personal agenda. Also known to cause readers to assume facts not in evidence and fill in any gaps that are not yet known. Example: I want to garner additional sympathy for gay individuals so I'll label this crime as gay bashing even though the facts are not yet in. "[/quote]


Oh, you are seeing boogeymen again. My bad. Carry on...

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]B786alo said: "Not so much timbrackett. The act of reading a news story and then making up facts to help promote a personal agenda. Also known to cause readers to assume facts not in evidence and fill in any gaps that are not yet known. Example: I want to garner additional sympathy for gay individuals so I'll label this crime as gay bashing even though the facts are not yet in. "[/quote]

Translation: People who are different from me deserve everything that comes to them because they are different than me.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justfortoday

People who are gay do not LEARN how to be gay...they are born that way. Some of them face their sexuality early on and address the issue, others don't, for whatever reason. There is no way that anyone would ever convince a gay person that they can be changed and no longer be gay. Who would choose this lifestyle? That is just absurd, imo.

Daveb47
Daveb47

I'm not flaming anyone on anything but its just something to ponder. We have people who argue about people being born gay or being gay, make a choice to be gay, or because of thier socialization. What about pedophilia? Is that something your born with, a product of your socialization, or a choice you make up on your own. While I'm definately not equating pedophilia to being gay but can you be born gay and not be born a pedophile? Is there a difference between orientation and preference? I'm just wondering what flips that switch in some people. I definately believe that some men are born more effeminate than others, just as some women are more masculine than others, does that equate into a choice of sexuality?

whycantwejustgetalong

I don't understand why the news is saying that this is not a HATE CRIME!! Yes it is because i hurd that this little boy was looking out the window and seen everything and it won't be long when the police will start arresting everybody.. So if you are reading this I pray that you turn yourself in because THE COPS WILL BE COMING TO YOUR DOOR.

UNI Alum
UNI Alum

DISGUSTING. This guy didn't live off welfare, and sure as heck wasn't runnin the streets committing crimes. That he died is a shame. And I'll guarantee you he likely died at the hands of his own hood. So wrong on sooooo many levels. It's embarrassing this is happening amongst the human race in the year 2011.

UNI Alum
UNI Alum

[quote]TimXXX said: "Its tragic this happened. But when you live outside the norms and don't stay low key or ignore the comments, things like this will happen. He should have just stayed in the house instead of getting in thier faces. "[/quote]

RIGHT, AND SO KILLING THE GUY WAS JUSTIFIED. SEEING AS YOU HAVE THE REBEL FLAG ON YOUR PROFILE...YOU'VE SAID A MILLION THINGS WITHOUT UTTERING A WORD JUST POSTING AN IGNORANT FLAG STEEPED IN YEARS OF HATRED TOWARD ANY ETHNICITY OTHER THAN CAUCASIAN.

Damned Hippie
Damned Hippie

@whycantwejustgetalong- your wreckless accusation that these women are culpable for the death of their friend is reprehensible and disgusting.

I Scream In The Sun
I Scream In The Sun

Waterloo police spokesman Michael McNamee told the Des Moines Register that investigators are aware of the hate-crime allegations but say the dispute between Andrews and his attackers is at least a year old.

McNamee says the arguments escalated on Thursday and involved a vandalized vehicle. The dispute came to a head early Friday morning with the attack.

Read More: http://wcfcourier.com/news/state-and-regional/iowa/fatal-waterloo-beating-not-hate-crime-police-say/article_094228ec-786f-56db-a8e5-4df1a879bf1d.html#ixzz1W0AqgozV

Assuming that just because homosexuality was a possible attribute, this means the crime MUST be focused on that, is as ignorant as calling somebody racist for displaying a state flag.

I Scream In The Sun
I Scream In The Sun

Do a search in the Iowa Courts database sometime for the case history of Tudia Simpson and Nikita Wright. Between them, there are over 50 criminal charges or filings. Assault, drugs, all sorts of stuff. It was really only a matter of time until these two finally were involved in some truly serious crime, in this case, throwing the first punches in a fight that led to the death of their friend. It is unfortunate that Marcellus was friends with lifelong criminals like them. Crime begets crime, and at a certain point, you have to draw the line and know better than to hang out with people like that. In comparison, nobody came rolling by my neighborhood that night looking for trouble... none of my friends went out and threw the first punches and drew any of us into fights... so at a certain point, you have to make decisions not to put yourself in dangerous situations. Hopefully this tragedy will serve as a wake-up call that no matter how good of a person YOU are, if you hang out with criminals and are out after midnight in Waterloo, you will still end up getting into trouble just like anyone else. Just be prepared for the sort of trouble that is common in "Little Somalia" these days, with gunfire a daily occurrence now in Waterloo. Hopefully winter will come soon, and it will get too cold for people to be out trying to kill each other as often.

mineral
mineral

justice for Marcellus, arrest them all, show them the same mercy they showed Marcellus,

Justfortoday

Pedophilia has NOTHING to do w/ being gay! Good grief folks, get some information about these things before you post! In fact, the gay men that I know abhor the thought of pedophilia or molestation and they resent that there would be any thought of connection between being gay and being a molester. I'm sure there are pedophiles that prefer someone of the same sex, like priests for example, but that is where they are pedophiles FIRST and then pursue their sexuality based on something entirely different. Gay men and women are born that way, it's not learned behavior and it's not due to your environment, what you drink, where you live or what you eat. Good grief!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]Justfortoday said: "People who are gay do not LEARN how to be gay...they are born that way. Some of them face their sexuality early on and address the issue, others don't, for whatever reason. There is no way that anyone would ever convince a gay person that they can be changed and no longer be gay. Who would choose this lifestyle? That is just absurd, imo. "[/quote]

How, then, do we explain people who do change their sexural orientation, if it is based solely on genetics? Did their gene mutate?

How also do we explain different rates of homosexual behavior across cultures, and even here in the U.S., if it is purely genetics that drives human sexurality?

timbrackett and rojoe are really struggling with basic reading comprehension with this article. Read the updated articles in the Courier and DMR and you'll find out the hate crime story you two are trying to peddle no longer matches the evidence. I'm sure a little logic won't deter either one of you liberal stalwarts but at least the rest of the Courier community can see your agenda's on display.

IowanAtheist

[quote]reojoe said: "How, then, do we explain people who do change their sexural orientation, if it is based solely on genetics? Did their gene mutate?How also do we explain different rates of homosexual behavior across cultures, and even here in the U.S., if it is purely genetics that drives human sexurality?"[/quote]

Behavior is a matter of choice -- and looking into some of those torture facilities that claim to be able to 'cure' a homosexual, I can see why someone would want to change their behavior.

Daveb47
Daveb47

[quote]Justfortoday said: "Pedophilia has NOTHING to do w/ being gay! Good grief folks, get some information about these things before you post! In fact, the gay men that I know abhor the thought of pedophilia or molestation and they resent that there would be any thought of connection between being gay and being a molester. I'm sure there are pedophiles that prefer someone of the same sex, like priests for example, but that is where they are pedophiles FIRST and then pursue their sexuality based on something entirely different. Gay men and women are born that way, it's not learned behavior and it's not due to your environment, what you drink, where you live or what you eat. Good grief!"[/quote]

You obviously didn't read my post very well as I was clear I was not trying to link gay people with pedophiles. What I was saying is if people who say gay people are born that way then do you think pedophiles are born that way. If you think being gay is a learned behavior, where do you think people who are pedophiles learned it.

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]B786alo said: "timbrackett and rojoe are really struggling with basic reading comprehension with this article. Read the updated articles in the Courier and DMR and you'll find out the hate crime story you two are trying to peddle no longer matches the evidence. I'm sure a little logic won't deter either one of you liberal stalwarts but at least the rest of the Courier community can see your agenda's on display."[/quote]

Actually, my argument had NOTHING to do with what you claim, Rush. My argument was disputing the claim that humans are the way that they are solely because of birth and genetics, Rush.

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]I Scream In The Sun said: "...is as ignorant as calling somebody racist for displaying a state flag."[/quote]

So, if there was a state flag with a swastika and I chose to only use the swastika portion of said state flag as my avatar it would be ignorant for people to assume I was a racist?

The only ignorance I see is ignorant racists defending their own...

timbrackett
timbrackett

[quote]B786alo said: "timbrackett and rojoe are really struggling with basic reading comprehension with this article. Read the updated articles in the Courier and DMR and you'll find out the hate crime story you two are trying to peddle no longer matches the evidence. I'm sure a little logic won't deter either one of you liberal stalwarts but at least the rest of the Courier community can see your agenda's on display."[/quote]

What is my agenda? Fairness? Tolerance? Treating others with dignity? Well, damn me for pursuing such a radical agenda!

reojoe
reojoe

[quote]Daveb47 said: "You obviously didn't read my post very well as I was clear I was not trying to link gay people with pedophiles. What I was saying is if people who say gay people are born that way then do you think pedophiles are born that way. If you think being gay is a learned behavior, where do you think people who are pedophiles learned it. "[/quote]

I'll speak only for me, but (1) sexuality, period, is a learned behavior. We don't come out of the womb knowing how to have sex. (2) Sexual attractiveness is also a learned behavior. In other words, people learn to become attracted to children, or whatever it is that he/she is attract to.

I use MANY examples to illustrate my second point, but have you ever found someone to become more attractive the more time that you spent with that person? You weren't born attracted to that person, but you learned to become attracted to that person overtime. Similarly, I'm attracted to women, but do not find women in other cultures who overly adorn their bodies with piercings, body inserts, etc to be attractive. Why? Because within the context of our culture (key idea), we don't define that or see that as attractive. Could I learn to become attracted to such a woman overtime? Certainly.

Hence, we are not born sexual or attracted to anything. We learn it in the context of our society and culture.

RUNNING4ACURE

My heart gos out to this family. I did not know him but NO ONE deserves what happened to this boy! Who cares if he was gay or not! That was his choice not ours! I pray there is justice! Use them as an example and throw the key away for everyone of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justfortoday

[quote]Daveb47 said: "While I'm definately not equating pedophilia to being gay but can you be born gay and not be born a pedophile? "[/quote]

Dave, sorry if I did read your post wrong, it was this sentence that I was referring to w/ my post and I interpreted to be...but can you be born gay and NOT be born a pedophile? which of course the two are not connected yet your sentence read as if it were, iyo. apologies for the confusion but I stand by my comments overall.

Daveb47
Daveb47

[quote]Justfortoday said: "Dave, sorry if I did read your post wrong, it was this sentence that I was referring to w/ my post and I interpreted to be...but can you be born gay and NOT be born a pedophile? which of course the two are not connected yet your sentence read as if it were, iyo. apologies for the confusion but I stand by my comments overall."[/quote]

I see what you are saying and my wording was chosen poorly.

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]exiowanthankgod said: "well i dont understand why people are so shocked this been going on in waterloo for years. i think we should treat these thugs like we treat terrorist because thats exactly what they are home grown terrorist maybe bring our troop home and put them in waterloo and well see how bad these thugs really are. and another thing why aint the NAACP marching if a police officer puts the cuffs on a criminal to hard they are marching all day long but let a black man get beat to death by thugs and they are hiding where are the black leaders of this town when something like this happens seems like they have there prioritys really mixed up to me "[/quote]

I agree with you 100 percent because the NAACP should have been all on the news and this is all nation wide news... So that tells you that waterloo really need to get there self together, when a black man dies it's like nothing to the law, people on here are calling him a thug and he was a nice educated youung man and he did not deserve to dy..

whycantwejustgetalong

[quote]pepsican1 said: "i hope the cowards that did this get exactly what they deserve!! "[/quote]
I think everybody that was there that night should be locked up until they find out who killed him.

bigblklady
bigblklady

http://www.iowa.gov/government/crc/docs/Response_to_Hate_Crime-Act_Booklet.pdf

I thought this would be nice to share.

NICe LADY

I must Say tht the COUrier Put wat they want an swicth stuff Around.... MArCElluS frienDS did EVERYTHING THT THEY COULD, SO AN TRIAL CUMMING SOON SO JUST FOLLOW THE STORY.... RIP MARCELLUS ANDREWS

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